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I have taken a six month old Rotty on as a day care dog, I pick him up at 9am and drop him off again at 5.30pm. The main reason for this is because he is still not toilet trained, I had him 2 days last week and so far this week I have had him 2 days and today we seemed to crack it, so fingers crossed for tomorrow!!!


The advice I need is that I know he was not socialised at all before I took him on and he doesnt seem to realise when my two girls are finished playing and just want to relax and so it escalates to a mini fight at which point me or my partner have to get involved because I cant have my dogs or a customers dog getting bitten. I am unsure to wether this is just puppy playing and my girls have grown up or if this is going to be a serious problem. I know I have only had him a couple of days but am worried because I cant leace him alone with my two dogs and cant have my daughter in the same room as them as I am scared she will get caught in the middle. I am starting to regret taking him but it is better than his owner sticking him in her kitchen and leaving him to mess everywhere and to be lonely and bored forever.


The other thing was even at 6 months he is a very horny boy, this does seem to be settling down and he does obey when I tell him to get off but was wondering if he will just stop once he realises this is not acceptable or will I have to suggest his owner get him snipped and if this is the case how old does he have to be????/


Any advice would be gratefully appriciated!
 

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Tiny , when he gets to excited I would put him in the crate for a bit till he settles down . He's still a pup and has to learn when it's time to quit.


I'm sure Donna will have some good advice for you since she has several and juggles them all the time .
 

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Hi i used to foster and dealt with rotts of all ages coming in. I would def talk to the owner about getting him nuetered, he old enough now and it will help calm him down. Also wondering do your dogs usually take to other dogs okay? Sometimes having a new babe in the house that gets attention can stir them up.


Anyways thats what i would do, if he were mine he would have beenaltered at 5 months of age but thats just me.


good luck, if it does continue you might want to tell the owner since you do have kids that he stayshome during the day until they decide what to do. I could imagine the struggles you are having right now. Giving him time outs until than is a great idea too. I dont foster anymore because my kids come first and i have 2 toddlers ages 3 and 1. Im sure the owners wouldnt object to your advice, but at least than you can talk about your options and what to do in the mean time.


Hope i helped some
 

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Neutering seems a hard way to go though.

This is a pup and all he wants to do is play!

He may be showing teenage signs but "hormone hell" shouldnt have hit full strength yet.

I would advise supervision by an adult and very strict rules. When he get overexcited take him "down". By voice, posture or even by "force".. (neck grabbing, "in his face" etc).

I seriously dislike the idea of neutering a healthy male pup just because he is displaying normal behaviour. This behaviour would be (and is in my case) also normal behaviour for my pup which is female.
 

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Neutering yes.Dogs who are not being shown do not need to be intact.This could lead to an unplaned parent hood.(which we don't need any more of)


Let them play when you are around,but supervise the play.When play time is over place him in a crate to nap.I know if we did not stop the dogs from playing sometimes it would get out of hand .
 

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I have had him four days steady now and the toilet training is a done deed, no bother and only took two days, its obviously not a problem with the dog but with the owners.


The aggression is fading but, like Donna said its more a playing thing now that gets a little too rough and ends up a mini fight, the growl will change and it becomes more meaningful when they chase after him and he to them. We have always stepped in and told him its unacceptable and it stops until the playing starts again so I will start a time out programme with him on Monday, see how that goes, when the playing is getting to be a bother to the girls I will stick him in my room and give him 5, cant put him in a crate because the one I have isnt big enough for him and I havent room for one that would be!


The humping is all but gone which I am really pleased about but havent said much about it to his owner because I strongly feel that she should not be letting any dog have puppies when she is so obviously clueless. I will keep on with the suggestion of getting him the snip.


Thanks for all the advice I will keep you posted
 

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oh sorry ilovemia, to answer you questions, I am a dog walker by trade and my girls have been highly socialised from a very early age and I have never met a dog they didnt get along with which is why I think I am finding this a little hard. I dont mind having him during the day, one more doesnt really make that much of a difference and I feel I have to take him because of the way the owner and her partner treat him, I am a big softie and this is the only way I can see of helping this pup so this is what I am doing.
 

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Not sure about " horney "


At the dog park even the FEMALES hop on board

It is a DOMINENCE thing ..... with strangers .....


they ALL do it ..... male and female ..... " who's the boss "
 

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I think that your females might actually be teaching the male pup some manners by whooping his butt when he gets out of hand. If he isn't well socialised with other dogs, he probably doesn't know the rules of canine etiquette, and your girls are just setting him straight. I wouldn't worry about it unless it escalates into a full-on fight. That being said, if you don't feel safe having this dog in your house, consider refusing him.

Kids and dogs - whether they are yours or not - really shouldn't be left alone together anyway. I'm not saying that your dogs are mean or that your kid doesn't know how to behave, but even the best kids do ridiculous things sometimes. And so do dogs.
 

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Thanks for all the advice everyone - much appriciated!!!


Okay Update!


Jake is doing really well!!!!! The humping has totally stopped, it was a sexual thing, not a dominating thing - most definalty, you should have seen those little hips go!!!


Like I said the toilet training is sorted but I am still working on his stamina, he can only go half an hour without needing out so I am building that up slowly.


He is definatley getting better with the girls and yesterday they only had one tiff and today there wasnt a single one so I am just wired! Seems funny but I hadnt realised just how stressed I was getting about this. I am picking up a crate for him that is more than big enough, discovered part of the problem was my girls are not ones to share their bones and toys so he was playing up because they were stealing whatever he was chewing/playing with and he was getting upset. So theory is if he has a crate then he can go in there and no be bothered by my two plus he wont panic and wet himself because he can still see us.
 

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Tiny , glad to see things are going well with your little mate ! Thank goodness he found you . I have no doubt that he will be a good mannered boy when all is said and done !
 
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