Yea,I swear when he was talking to me it was like you..Dan and Donna were right there in the room LOL. I was like....doc,I know all of this. He says,"that's what all rott owners think" He talked me into having the chip put in as well. It's only 53 dollars and has a lot of advantages. He also wants to neuter Max. I'm not to sure about that. Max is turning out to be a really good dog. What if I want another one like him? Think I'm gonna pass on that one. I know you guys would agree with the vet but I don't.