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So my baby boy Thor is 8 months old. He has been very stiff in his front legs, short choppy steps and limping for a couple of months now. I've talked to others (breeder/trainer/groomer) and read early on that it could be growing pains, to give it some time, which we have. Brought up at vet appt during rabies shot etc. No concerns. Gave it a little more time and no improvement. Made the vet appt. Took x-rays and found signs of ED. No pano. Shoulder are ok. Put him on carprofin and Referred us to Specialist.

Saw Specialist today and confirmed ED & DJD. Basically no guarantee that any surgery will fix and looking at long term pain mgmt.

Now I have a hard decision to make as to where do I go from here. This is a first for me and I am so lost. I guess I'm looking for insight/experience in these situations.

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Welcome to the forums. I'm sorry you are going through this with Thor. Right now the most important thing to do is to keep him comfortable...so he is not in pain. How much does he weigh right now? Try to slow down his growth by really controlling his food. You want his growth slowed down so his joints and ligaments catch up with his growth and weight. What food are you feeding? Is it possible to start feeding him raw, or a home prepared cooked diet?

What does his breeder say? They should be told. What were the elbow and hip scores on the sire and dam? Does the breeder have any type of warranty? You may get money from the breeder to help with his vet bills. ED does not have to be a death sentence. I know a few dogs that have had surgery and lived great lives. Thor is at the age where he is growing the fastest right now...once he is done with it....the elbows may just even out with discomfort.

I would get him started on a good quality joint supplement and on anti-inflammatories and see if that helps till you decide on surgery and what to do.
 

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Welcome to the forums. I'm sorry you are going through this with Thor. Right now the most important thing to do is to keep him comfortable...so he is not in pain. How much does he weigh right now? Try to slow down his growth by really controlling his food. You want his growth slowed down so his joints and ligaments catch up with his growth and weight. What food are you feeding? Is it possible to start feeding him raw, or a home prepared cooked diet?

What does his breeder say? They should be told. What were the elbow and hip scores on the sire and dam? Does the breeder have any type of warranty? You may get money from the breeder to help with his vet bills. ED does not have to be a death sentence. I know a few dogs that have had surgery and lived great lives. Thor is at the age where he is growing the fastest right now...once he is done with it....the elbows may just even out with discomfort.

I would get him started on a good quality joint supplement and on anti-inflammatories and see if that helps till you decide on surgery and what to do.
Thank you. Thor is 80# right now. He's on Taste of the Wild/puppy. He's at about 5c/day. The breeder has been kept in the loop since the beginning and has been responsive. He did explain that even though the parents were cleared, it can still be passed through 2nd,3rd,4th generations. Options are to surrender for new pup or for refund or keep and pay for care our of pocket.

After speaking with the specialist yesterday, he advised that because there are issues with the elbow bones/growth surgery won't guarantee anything. There are large gaps in between both, not setting in properly. Can do drastic surgery and cut the bone all the way across and hope that the joints will move and settle. I understand that if it was the ED it wouldn't be so bad, but because we are also dealing with the defective bone growth it's a harder decision.

What supplements would you recommend? I have heard about feeding raw but not sure where to begin.

Thank you.
 

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Thor's weight seems OK for an 8 month old pup. I would take him off of the Puppy food! Get him on a good quality Large Breed Adult food. Some breeders advise their puppy owners never to feed puppy food...or put their pups on a All-Life-Stages food. Puppy food can cause problems with bone development in large breeds.

Did the breeder not have hip and elbow scores on previous generations ? Hips and elbows have been mandatory for many generations now...the breeder should know what they are brining into the pedigree. If you ask me...sleazy breeders have this "guarantee"...means nothing. Who is going to give back a puppy that they have raised for 8 months? No one. Basically their guarantee is worth nothing. :( Why would you take a new pup from a breeder that produced a puppy with severe ED and DJD?

Supplements would contain Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM etc. I've always liked Cosequin . Take a look at this link and do some research :25 Best Dog Joint Supplements in 2022

Raw you can buy premade raw at some pet food stores...or do some reading and educate yourself on the raw diet. I would start with taking Thor off of puppy food asap!!
 

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We were told by our breeder to start our pup on adult food so that he didn't grow too quickly. We did as they advised -adult kibbles, along with homemade food (chicken, hamburger, green beans, sweet potatoes & rice -we tried to duplicate what the breeder was feeding him.....and we still do). We also give him one egg a day. He did start having some problems with his hips at 6-8 months, and we started giving him Synovi G3 Soft Chews Glucosamine Joint Supplement for Dogs and Grizzly Salmon Plus Omega Fatty Acids Supplement for Dogs & Cats, 32 Fl Oz - Wild-Sourced Salmon Oil for Dogs, Omega 3-6-9 . He is almost 2 now and is doing great....of course, if we decide to breed him, we will have him certified first....I think he just needed some time for everything to mesh together.....you may want to try some other alternatives before making any major decisions. Best wishes to you and Thor...
 

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I met Hazel the Rottweiler when she was a year old, and she had hip and elbow issues. Had a quick chat with the owner, told him about what I did for my first Rotties when they started having mobility issues, Couple months later, I received an email from the guy, and he said his dog had improved significantly.

He had already started his dog on 4000 mg fish oil each day. He added in OG certified agricultural kelp meal and turmeric powder to the kibble. Those three ingredients are nutritionally dense and fill in gaps in whatever might be missing from commercial food, and you just add it to whatever you're already feeding.

Many Rottweilers are allergic to chicken, so would encourage you to steer clear of chicken based kibble. Some Rotties do extremely well on whole, raw turkey and organ meat with supplements.

2mg per pound of body weight per day of CBD from whole plant hemp extract. If it's a food issue, the 5 Strands allergy test would be able to tell you that.

Finally, the hips if your dog will not be fully developed until 18-24 months. Be gentle on his body. Hope that helps.
 

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So my baby boy Thor is 8 months old. He has been very stiff in his front legs, short choppy steps and limping for a couple of months now. I've talked to others (breeder/trainer/groomer) and read early on that it could be growing pains, to give it some time, which we have. Brought up at vet appt during rabies shot etc. No concerns. Gave it a little more time and no improvement. Made the vet appt. Took x-rays and found signs of ED. No pano. Shoulder are ok. Put him on carprofin and Referred us to Specialist.

Saw Specialist today and confirmed ED & DJD. Basically no guarantee that any surgery will fix and looking at long term pain mgmt.

Now I have a hard decision to make as to where do I go from here. This is a first for me and I am so lost. I guess I'm looking for insight/experience in these situations.

Tia
I can imagine how difficult it was for you when Thor was diagnosed with ED. My Rottie was also diagnosed with ED 7 months ago. Because surgery is quite expensive, I decided to look into other options in the meantime while I continue to raise funds for her surgery. To reduce the pain and discomfort brought on by ED, our vet introduced us to Glyde Mobility Chews. He also added that the glucosamine and chondroitin in this product could help strengthen the cartilage in her joint and decrease cartilage degradation. Maybe you could also try discussing this product with your vet and try to get his opinion.
 

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Thank you all for your feedback. This has definitely been hard for me to see my furbaby be in pain. We did get the certs for mama n papa. Papa was A/0. Mama was A/BL. So thinking it was passed from the mama.

I've started the cosequin and salmon oil which seems to be helping. I've read to keep him on puppy food till full grown and I've read to take him off. I also have him on Taste of the Wild, fish blend since he does have an allergy to chicken. What would be a recommended large breed food if this is not it? He was on Royal Canine when he came home but also read negative reviews on that as well.

He also just finished his Life Skills class 😀. Love my boy.
 

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Breeder Breeder Breeder. Any health problems take the pup back to the breeder. This helps everybody in the Rottweiler community and those looking to join. Stories like this are painful to read and experience. A responsible Breeder will do what pet owners refuse to do. That is to face facts, accept responsibility, take action, and above all do what is right for the breed. Plenty of new owners of rottweilers look for a bargain. They refuse to pay the price of a good pup from a stellar pedigree or breeding program. I do not want to ride you too bad. But I got stung twice by craigslist sellers before good advice sunk in. Research thoroughly before you buy.
 

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Breeder Breeder Breeder. Any health problems take the pup back to the breeder. This helps everybody in the Rottweiler community and those looking to join. Stories like this are painful to read and experience. A responsible Breeder will do what pet owners refuse to do. That is to face facts, accept responsibility, take action, and above all do what is right for the breed. Plenty of new owners of rottweilers look for a bargain. They refuse to pay the price of a good pup from a stellar pedigree or breeding program. I do not want to ride you too bad. But I got stung twice by craigslist sellers before good advice sunk in. Research thoroughly before you buy.
I don't know about you....but who is going to give a puppy back to the breeder that they have fallen in love with?? Not many people. That's why sketchy breeders have "guarantees " that if you return to the breeder....you can change the puppy out for a new one. It does not work that way and most people will not return their puppy. The "greeder" is counting on that. Also if the "greeder" is already producing unhealthy puppies...who wants to get another one from poor breeding.

I do agree...the buyer must do their homework...and buy from an ethical breeder that is trying to do everything right. Sadly, even with the best of genetic testing and other health certs...sometimes puppies that develop problems are produced. It's what the breeder does with that knowledge that makes the difference. Dogs are not cars...they do not come off assembly lines. Genetics plays a big part in producing a healthy puppy....but the owner must acknowledge that they also play a part in the puppies health. If they are feeding Pedigree (and overfeeding) and letting the pup jump in and out of an SUV, and taking it out jogging at 6 months....it may cause problems in the future.

I think if you buy anything from Craigslist you should assume that it's BYB produced...and get health insurance on the pup asap!! Better yet, adopt a pup/dog from a shelter or a rescue. Often BYB's dump puppies that they cannot sell to shelters or rescue.
 

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I don't know about you....but who is going to give a puppy back to the breeder that they have fallen in love with?? Not many people. That's why sketchy breeders have "guarantees " that if you return to the breeder....you can change the puppy out for a new one. It does not work that way and most people will not return their puppy. The "greeder" is counting on that. Also if the "greeder" is already producing unhealthy puppies...who wants to get another one from poor breeding.

I do agree...the buyer must do their homework...and buy from an ethical breeder that is trying to do everything right. Sadly, even with the best of genetic testing and other health certs...sometimes puppies that develop problems are produced. It's what the breeder does with that knowledge that makes the difference. Dogs are not cars...they do not come off assembly lines. Genetics plays a big part in producing a healthy puppy....but the owner must acknowledge that they also play a part in the puppies health. If they are feeding Pedigree (and overfeeding) and letting the pup jump in and out of an SUV, and taking it out jogging at 6 months....it may cause problems in the future.

I think if you buy anything from Craigslist you should assume that it's BYB produced...and get health insurance on the pup asap!! Better yet, adopt a pup/dog from a shelter or a rescue. Often BYB's dump puppies that they cannot sell to shelters or rescue.
I paid a lot of money from " an ethical breeder " VonRuelmann. 8 week old puppy. At 12 weeks old he developed cherry eye. A genetic disorder. I contacted the breeder and he wanted me to cut out the eyelid! No way am I going to disfigure him. I paid for a breeding, show quality dog. He refused to accept responsibility. So I paid for a show, breeding quality dog and because of his genetic deformity in good conscience I can't.
Beware of VonRuelmann Rottweilers. They are all all about profit. All talk.
 

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I paid a lot of money from " an ethical breeder " VonRuelmann. 8 week old puppy. At 12 weeks old he developed cherry eye. A genetic disorder. I contacted the breeder and he wanted me to cut out the eyelid! No way am I going to disfigure him. I paid for a breeding, show quality dog. He refused to accept responsibility. So I paid for a show, breeding quality dog and because of his genetic deformity in good conscience I can't.
Beware of VonRuelmann Rottweilers. They are all all about profit. All talk.
I paid a lot of money from " an ethical breeder " VonRuelmann. 8 week old puppy. At 12 weeks old he developed cherry eye. A genetic disorder. I contacted the breeder and he wanted me to cut out the eyelid! No way am I going to disfigure him. I paid for a breeding, show quality dog. He refused to accept responsibility. So I paid for a show, breeding quality dog and because of his genetic deformity in good conscience I can't.
Beware of VonRuelmann Rottweilers. They are all all about profit. All talk.
I remember calling him during my due diligence phase of choosing a breeder. He was asking 10k per pup at that time 2022. From a business standpoint, there is no way I let $10k stand in the way of a million due to bad business practices. Sad
 

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I remember calling him during my due diligence phase of choosing a breeder. He was asking 10k per pup at that time 2022. From a business standpoint, there is no way I let $10k stand in the way of a million due to bad business practices. Sad
This is a commercial breeder....with a huge operation!!! The breeder is not ethical....not doing full health certs on their dogs, no showing or titling of their own dogs...just buying them titled. 10 k per pup???? That's ridiculous....there is nothing special about these puppies. You could get a puppy from fully tested and titled dam and sire for less than half of that.
 
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