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When we got Dallas we where told she had not yet had her 1st heat, she was about 9 months old, over weight, under trained. Once we got her home we went to the vet for shot and a check up. Everything checkd out except her weight. He said she was to fat and she needed to watch her feeding till she lose some fat. 3 Weeks later she miscarried 9 pups. I cryed cuz i know 1 she was way to young to have to go threw this, 2 they where her dads pups. She is 15 month now, and seams to be fine. I was just wondering if it was her being so young, or what that could have made her do that. Don't get me wrong I know it was for the best she did miscarry. Was just hoping for some insightor to know if anyone else has gone threw this.


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If she aborted her pups then I feel it was natures way of saying she wasn't ready for these pups. Have you since had her spayed? As she is a pet there is no reason for her to left intact. Spaying her will elimate another accidental breeding and unwanted litter. Also if left intact there is always the possibility of her developing a Pyometra after/during each heat cycle,which is most often fatal if not caught in time.
 

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She has not been spayed yet. and there is no was she will get prego, do to we keep her on tight lock down when in cycle. I haved nothing to do with her being breed at that age. She was prego when I got her and was not told she was. I have been asked not to get her spay till she is done with training. Why this is i don't know.


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I have been asked not to get her spay till she is done with training. Why this is i don't know.




Then you need to ask.





When she is in heat, where is it that you keep her? In one of your other threads you stated that during the day she is penned up outside. When she is going through a heat cycle do you still keep her penned outside?
 

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If she aborted there is somthing wrong with her or there was something wrong with the puppys.I would have her spayed as soon as possible.As she is only a pet.Pyrometra is what happens to some females,they get an infection inside and can die.She will be easyer to train once she is spayed.


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She has a 6' x 10' pin that is tarped around the bottom (on the inside) where she can't get in off. plus we have a 6' fenced in yard. And I know the next thing is well should could dig out. No she can't we had the fixed to. And no one can dig in.


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She can't get out ,but that would not keep a male from getting in.When they decied they want to get in they will.I have seen them go thru the fence to get at a bitch in season.Best to just spay and not have to worry about it.


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Is the pen she in covered on top. Dogs will go to amazing lengths to get to a bitch in heat including,but not limited to, climbing 6'ft or higher fences/pens, eating through walls, going through windows or doors, etc. The best thing you could do for your girl is to get her spayed, there is no reason to wait until after training is finished, whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about.
 

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Yes the pin has a top on it. But right now I have to wait she is going though a false pregnacy. I know thats what is it cause I took her to the vet. He said he would fix her when she was over this. We are going to get her a playmate. My question is the old AkC pups could find in my area send the pup home with you at 4 weeks, all the books I have read say no sooner than 8 weeks, is that right?


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Four weeks is way to early.If they are sending them home that early do not get a puppy from them EVER.I would get to know your dog better before getting it a play mate.I bet from the sound of her growing up that she is loving being the only dog.To take that away from her so soon could mean disaster.


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I have desided not to breed Dally do to one of my books I read. The Rottweiler Centuries of Service. It went into a few things I am not willing to put her through. Plus a few things I did not know about the breed.(about selling the pups) Here where we are there are not "Breeders". I guess you could say most all are BYB. That is where we got Dally from. I have been very lucky from what I read about her health. The only thing I have had a problem with was the miscarrage. And I was not even told she was pregnant. She trys to play with our cats, and there is no other dogs that I know of I want her playing with. So we are going to start looking into shelters and rescue for a rottie about her age. I know this will take time that is why we are staeting now to look. So if you can't change someones mind about breeding get them to read that book it was writen by:Linda Michels & Catherine Thompson. I have alot of books on rotties but this one to me is best, I am just going to train Therapy dogs.


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That book I don't have,but I have at least 30 books,plus magazines.When breeding there are lots of things to consider first.Does my dog fit the standard(does it look and act like a Rottweiler)?Has the dog passed all it health clearences(Rottweilers have lots of health problems)?Breeding is something you do for ever not just now(you must be willing to take back any puppy you produced at any age).You must also know the back ground of your dog to know which dog to breed it to. I believe that every Rottweiler out there being bred should have a performance title.Rottweilers are working dogs and by not breeding the true Rottweiler you are doing a disservice to the Breed.I studied pedigrees and dogs for 6 years before I had my first litter and I am still studying them,so I can improve what I have.Not just breed to digs to make money.


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I got it for X-mas from my husband. We have both been reading it, and all we could find on puppy mills. We don't want to end up with rut-roh on our hands. Don't get my wrong we love Dally, and she will live a long happy life with us. But the miscarrage was hard on all of us. Plus we read where the people that might get a pup, if it would bite anyone they could come back on us. I DON"T THINK SO!! Not even going there with the no leash law here. Dogs and cats are killed every day because of it. I have had to work on dogs with road rash and it brakes my heart to have to send that dog home with the people that let it happen. Even worse is having to explain to someone that we have to put the dog down do to no leash or no pin. And they just don't get it. I can't send a pup with someone not knowing where it will sleep or eat or play. I still have to let everyone know we will not be breeding her but that is ok with me just knowing i have more years with her.


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I screen my puppy people very closely.I have a three page contract that they must sign.I know where all my pups are to this day.I have gotten dogs back,and sometimes you do sell to the wrong people.It is a never ending thing.I get calls all the time for puppys I could make alot of money doing this,but I only have a litter every three or four years.I breed only when I need a new puppy to show.I keep at least three puppys and sell the rest as pets on a spay/neuter contract.I had five people waiting for a pup out of the last litter,I only had one puppy.The other people are going to wait till the next breeding.If you do it right you never make any money at it,It is a full time job that takes alot out of you.


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I think it is great that you find good homes for your rotties. I am just not willing to breed here do to people that don't understand rotties. The little boy across the street is a good examle of what I am talking about. I put Dally in the back of the truck so she could ride with me to take paperwork to my husbands job. I let the tail gate down and her free so if she had to potty before i left she could. This little boy is scared of Dally even though he see all the other kids play with her. So to my surprise he starts waving chips in the air in hopes she would want one.( chips are a rare treat she gets and she loves them) She jumps out the truck and walks over to him, He runs in the his house screaming that Dally tryed to bite him. When his mother came out the door I had other people that had seen it to, and we all told her what had happen. She told me to keep my dog out of her yard. Yet Dally never made it out my yard. When I seen where she was going I yelled stop and she froze stiff at the end of my drive. Yet this is the same kid who lets their pit wonder in the road and yes in my and other peoples yard. I have seen this pit take down dogs 3x's it size. When he does put hte pit on a leash he trys to bring it over here, stands in my yard and tells me not to let my dog out. I have tryed to talk to the mother but as always she says her dogs needs to run and play to, I can understand that but it is not trained to their yard, And when they let him out no one is there to watch him. I must say I have meet some good pits that are like Dally, a big baby. But I worry about this pit do to it not getting any trainning. The people around here know my Dally and all can tell you she never leaves her yard. All the other people aroud here keep there pets in their yard or pin. All but this pit. So There again is one more reason we have desided not to breed. I worked as in Animal Behavior for years, and i have seen what bad owners can and do let happen. AndI could never let that that happen to one of Dallys pups.


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There are stuipd people every where.I live on 5 acres away from the city,I would never let my dogs run loose.There are to may dogs running loose out here.You can't trust any one.


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