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Anyone heard of the ROMAN breed rotty?
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You are very right.There is only one kind of Rottweiler(wait two) the Rottweiler that is bred to the standard and the Rottweiler that is not.Back yard breeders breed them bigger and then give them some weird name to sell them.Iv'e heard of the North American King Rottweiler,Now the Roman,how about I got a pure blood German Rott.What exectly is that any way?Anyone with half a brain would know it was a pure bred Rottweiler with German desendents.


Again there is only one type of Rottweilers no others.


Donna
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More info on the Roman type breed.


http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/romanrottweiler.htm


And check out the size on these rotties on this breeder's website.


http://www.fransrottweilers.com/
How stupid are people?This dogs are supose to be the breed of dogs the Romans use to drive the cattle as the conquered,yet read the health problems and where they should live.A dog this big does nothing but lay around and pant.They could not drive cattle nor protect anyone from any thing.


These are again Back yard Breeders trying to come up with a nitch and sell dogs with health problems to the stupid people who want them.


Donna
I was just wondering if anyone heard about these Roman breeds. They say the rotties started like this before they came to Germany. Just researching if it is true.
http://www.der-rottweiler.com/menu1_01.html


heres that link.Rottweilers did not look like Rottweilers when they drove cattle for the Romans,because they were not Rottweilers yet.How can they be named after a town in German if they have not even gotten there yet?They were there for quite a while before they were called Rottweilers.The pictures I have of early Rottweilers look more like big Beagles.


Two clubs were formed and one bred for workablity and the other for looks(they were trying to get them black/brown).


So this guy who is trying to bring back the dog the Romans had is really off track.And really has never read or done any real reasearch on the breed.Anyone who breeds bigger or smaller then the standard is not doing it to improve anything just line their pockets.


Donna
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Once again I believe you are absolutely right Donna. Before I came to this site I would have believed some of those sites on the internet, but after seeing what you have had to say about the breed plus looking up additional information I now know there are people out there who will pitch a "unique rot" for money. I have even seen sites advertising "rare white rots", "red rotts" and so on. Mge 1 please listen to Donna, and the many wonderful people here-Bigger is not better, in fact oversized rotts are known for having health problems. And if breeders claim they are changing the standard of the rott to better the breed by trying to make them supposedly as they used to be thats someone who doesnt want a rott-they are out to make money with a gimmick. Those animals on the site were way oversized and I noticed it didn't show these dogs running, jumping, playing...they can't. Their too big, and the person who bred them that big and has a grown one knows they cant possibly do the things he claims. These poor animals will have hip and leg problems as well as who knows what else through their unresponsible breeding. Enjoy the rott for what he is, not something that has to be changed. Its the peoples perceptions that need to change of these wonderful creatures.


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Donna thanks for the info.
If people keep breeding to change a breed then soon the breed we all grew to love could be gone.Breeders should be breeding to improve what they have and not to just produce puppies.While sticking to the standard.Show people are just a guilty as back yard breeders as they breed to what is wining not to the standard.When I started in Rottweilers they were breeding them big-about 140-and that is what was winning.Now they are breeding for big heads.So just because someone shows does not make them a great breeder.Some show people have lots of litters a year and breed their females every year(they are no better then puppy mills)


In Germany they have very stricked code for breeding.They have breed wardens who look at both parents and tell you if you can breed the two,plus they come and evaluate the litter after they are on the ground.


If we had stricter rules for breeding we would not need as many shelters or rescues.Just because you own a dog does not mean that dog should be bred.


Donna
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Bigger is never better in rottie's. That is what you find alot of here. The bigger rotties. Dallas is standard to the letter. Have a feeling Blu will be on the big side of things. He is slower than Dallas and does not have the get up and go she does. Even now that we have him feeling better, he still can't keep up with the queen of play.
Donna you should be a avocate for dogs !!! We need wardens here for mans best friend ....and I think you would be one of the best !!! Lets send Donna to Washington to lobby for dogs! all in favor say I ......
There are people fighting for dogs rights as we speak.I have a friend in CA who is always sending BSL my way and I forward it.


We dog have a dog registery here in the states that do have Breed wardens.I will try to find a link to them.


http://www.usrconline.org/breedregistry.htm


here is a link to the USRC(the United States Rottweiler Club).They are trying to do things the same way they are done in Germany.I my self do not train or show inGerman style shows,but I have alot fo respect for people who do train and obtain SchH titles.It takes alot of work and dedication to earn such a title.There is also not a club within 3 hours of driving from me.


Donna
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I! I'm saying I to that!
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It will take more then one person to educate the public.I don't think people should stop breeding.I think they need to breed for the right reason.


So if we all work at it maybe we can educate the public and they will stop buying from people who do no health testing,or are not breeding to improve the breed as a whole.


Donna
Donna I am new at this forum. And so far you all have been very helpful. I thank you all!
We try to be.I know on other boards they attack first.We try not to do that first,but it has happened.


Donna
Oh trust me I know. That other forum alot of people there ATTACK. And all I was asking was some info. I don't know why they attack and get all defensive. Especially when I posted the dog park thread hehe.
Some people want to know why you are asking the question.


About the dog park.If you would have said.There is a dog park near my home and I'm thinking of taking my dog.Does anyone else take their dogs to a dog park?Is it a good idea?Then people whould know you are seeking imput.


So many people post one question on lists and then they are gone.


Donna
Oh the dog park thread i started here on this site is all good.


I was relating to the other dog park thread i started on the other rotty forum [rottweilerdotnet or something]. They started to attack each other with crazy comments.


This forum I love since comments hereare more understandable.
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