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Hello- I’m 52 years old, have had dogs my entire life. The next will be my 4th Rottie.
My first was adopted. He was American bred, 1/2 True German pedigree- nice dog, but not my idea of a true German. In short, he was too big, markings too light tan for my taste, he looked more mastiff than Rottweiler. He lived 11 years, died of cardiomegaly.
My second was a painful lesson in how one should research before buying. Otto was a great example of a German Rottweiler- mahogany markings, good angulation, perfect size. He was an AKC breeding from where I live in Illinois. He developed a limp at age 5... Osteosarcoma took him out in 6 months. Subsequent research revealed an alarming degree of inbreeding.
My next- and last Rottweiler was by far, the best. I researched the German breeding program at the time, 2003-2004, and reserved a puppy bred from sire Mambo Von Der Crossener Ranch, and a suitable female with all the right OFA certifications.
The breeding was sanctioned- in Germany & the dam imported pregnant.
Attila was the best dog I’ve ever known. He developed liver trouble at almost 14 years of age, and we had to say goodbye. That was almost 3 years ago, and my heart is finally in a place to start again. I searched out the breeder I bought him from- he’s still in business but some internet searching & reading raised some red flags about his current breeding program and, quite frankly- lack of OFA records in his current producing dogs- so I’m back to learning what I need to before I buy.
Can anyone provide a list of reputable breeders of pure German Rotts currently in the US?
I’d prefer COE breeders, and I’m not averse to buying another import pup provided that the full records of dam and sire are available. My last pup was pick of litter from a champ, and cost me $2500 back then. Not sure where the market is now, but I want top quality, documented genetics & don’t mind paying. I’m well aware that there are no guarantees, but I’ve been burned and heartbroken in the past.
I have 2 kids, 12 & 14, and a 5 year old female Bordeaux/French mastiff (spayed) with good even temperament.
I know there are lots of Rotts needing rescue, but the entire family has their hearts set on a male Rott pup, as do I. I already checked with my homeowners insurance- no breed restrictions there.

Please- help me find my next best buddy!

DrGunner
 

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Welcome to the forums. Sorry to hear about the dogs you have lost....the problem with this breed is that they are not long lived. Well bred, or poorly bred...they never live long enough.

Have you read this thread??https://www.rottweilersonline.com/forum/breeders-pedigrees/1683-american-vs-german-rottweilers.html There really should be very little difference between a Rottweiler of German lines (or born in Germany), and Rottweilers that are from German lines (born in the USA). What you think of as American Rottweilers are usually poorly BYB bred, long legged, longer snout, poor markings. This is because there are probably 2-3 generations of BYB's breeding these lines with no thought to conformation, temperament or titles.

Where are you located? There are all sorts of good breeders breeding from respected German lines, or other European countries. As you know you must find a breeder that does test their breeding dogs for hips,elbows, eyes and heart....and title in conformation, and obedience or working titles.

I would start with going to the American Rottweiler Club website. Find the local club in your state and e-mail the club to find breeders in your area. Also what shows are coming up in the near future.
www.amrottclub.org If you are looking at breeders that attend Sieger shows, then go to : Web Hosting - This site is temporarily unavailable as well as www.usronline.org They will have information on upcoming Sieger shows and maybe breeders that you can look into.
 

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Welcome to the forums. Sorry to hear about the dogs you have lost....the problem with this breed is that they are not long lived. Well bred, or poorly bred...they never live long enough.


Thanks for the welcome & info! Not all my experiences were bad- Attila gave us 13&1/2 years of love, protection and laughs. He had the typical drive to please, sprinkled with the occasional, “Make Me!” attitude.
I do agree that the gift that is the large breed dogs is a cruel trade-off. You get incredible loyalty and protection, but not enough time. I do feel that hedging ones bets through thorough research of bloodlines and ancestral longevity helps- when I bought Attila, all his grandparents were still alive and well in Germany.


Have you read this thread??https://www.rottweilersonline.com/forum/breeders-pedigrees/1683-american-vs-german-rottweilers.html There really should be very little difference between a Rottweiler of German lines (or born in Germany), and Rottweilers that are from German lines (born in the USA). What you think of as American Rottweilers are usually poorly BYB bred, long legged, longer snout, poor markings. This is because there are probably 2-3 generations of BYB's breeding these lines with no thought to conformation, temperament or titles.
No, but I certainly will after work tonight. I know I could have done a forum search- and I did, but I’m no stranger to forum life & find that starting a dialogue often gleans the most up to date info.



Where are you located? There are all sorts of good breeders breeding from respected German lines, or other European countries. As you know you must find a breeder that does test their breeding dogs for hips,elbows, eyes and heart....and title in conformation, and obedience or working titles.
I’m in Illinois, but certainly not averse to flying anywhere in the US to pick up a quality pup. For instance, I flew to Washington state to get Attila. I definitely want a dog from a lineage where both parents are OFA certified hips & elbows, eyes, heart, obedience, & titles are always a plus. Mambo was a multinational show champ, Schutzen III, & also a certified pet therapy dog. Dam was young but had OFA, heart, obedience/Schutzen I.



I would start with going to the American Rottweiler Club website. Find the local club in your state and e-mail the club to find breeders in your area. Also what shows are coming up in the near future.
www.amrottclub.org If you are looking at breeders that attend Sieger shows, then go to : Web Hosting - This site is temporarily unavailable as well as www.usronline.org They will have information on upcoming Sieger shows and maybe breeders that you can look into.

I’ll start there. I’m in no hurry here-we won’t even think about a pup until spring/summer but I wanted to start learning what’s available now.

Thank you very much for taking the time to put together such a helpful post with relevant links- that’s exactly what I wanted, a place to start.

Regards,

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Ditto Big Black Dogs.

But you might want to check out this breeder. https://www.facebook.com/TennesseeRottweilers/ She is in Limestone, TN which is considered East Tennessee.

One of her pups was re-homed to me in December, 2019, when it was around 20 months old. The family had raised the dog from a pup and had done everything right with her, including obedience school.

Unfortunately their life circumstances had changed dramatically so they spent three months looking for an appropriate home for her. A mutual friend knew I had had Rottweilers, and knew she would be in a great home, if he could convince me to open my heart to another Rottweiler.

Freyja is my fourth Rottenweiler in my life time; having lost each of my other three to some form of cancer.

Freyja is from the Von Keleman blood line which is mostly German, I believe. Her sire was imported from Germany by the breeder I linked above and he won his first show within a few weeks of arriving here.

Freyja will be three in March. She is a tall female, measuring 23-3/4” at the shoulders. The vet said, yes, she is tall for a female but she is “—the best put together female he has seen in a long time—“.

I have many pictures of her in my Introduction thread if you care to look; I have use it as a journal of sorts.

While my three previous Rottweilers were above average dog intelligence, Freyja is a bloody genius. She would easily be Mensa material, were she human. Not being quite three, she is still a sass box but never offers to bite or anything aggressive. Her eyes will actually turn black when she is miffed and does not like what is being asked of her. Thankfully she was spayed when she came to me, so I can’t blame any unruly behavior on that, lol.

Freyja lives in the house with my male/neutered Catahoula/Pit Bull; they get along great. Her life is pnowbeing a farm dog. She has been great with my horses since day one, but not so great with cats.

I realize you’re a good distance from Tennessee but you sound to be someone who is up for a travel adventure if you find the right breeder. I’m not saying the woman who put my Freyja Von Keleman on the ground is the right breeder for you, but she uses German blood lines so may be someone to consider.

Best wishes in your search and welcome to the forum:)
 

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Sorry for all of this double posts and delayed posts. There must be forum mice running around....messing things up...hahahahaha!
 

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One thing I failed to mention, that I would be cautious of importing a puppy from Germany. I've been hearing lots of horror stories of people importing a pup, and not getting what they paid for. Unless you know the breeder personally or have someone in Germany that knows them...it can be an iffy thing. The Germans are not going to be selling their top, well bred puppies...they keep the best for themselves. Also European/German breeders do not health test like they do in North America. Hips and elbows....and that's about it. If a dog dies early (often from the heart), things are swept under the rug...and not discussed.

If you are Illinois you may want to get in touch with this breeder : https://www.vonherrschend.com/home I know that my Jemma's breeder did a breeding with their dog awhile ago...and the pups are turning out really nice. They may also be able to refer you to another breeder in the area.
 

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Ditto Big Black Dogs.

But you might want to check out this breeder. https://www.facebook.com/TennesseeRottweilers/ She is in Limestone, TN which is considered East Tennessee.

One of her pups was re-homed to me in December, 2019, when it was around 20 months old. The family had raised the dog from a pup and had done everything right with her, including obedience school.

Unfortunately their life circumstances had changed dramatically so they spent three months looking for an appropriate home for her. A mutual friend knew I had had Rottweilers, and knew she would be in a great home, if he could convince me to open my heart to another Rottweiler.

Freyja is my fourth Rottenweiler in my life time; having lost each of my other three to some form of cancer.

Freyja is from the Von Keleman blood line which is mostly German, I believe. Her sire was imported from Germany by the breeder I linked above and he won his first show within a few weeks of arriving here.

Freyja will be three in March. She is a tall female, measuring 23-3/4” at the shoulders. The vet said, yes, she is tall for a female but she is “—the best put together female he has seen in a long time—“.

I have many pictures of her in my Introduction thread if you care to look; I have use it as a journal of sorts.

While my three previous Rottweilers were above average dog intelligence, Freyja is a bloody genius. She would easily be Mensa material, were she human. Not being quite three, she is still a sass box but never offers to bite or anything aggressive. Her eyes will actually turn black when she is miffed and does not like what is being asked of her. Thankfully she was spayed when she came to me, so I can’t blame any unruly behavior on that, lol.

Freyja lives in the house with my male/neutered Catahoula/Pit Bull; they get along great. Her life is pnowbeing a farm dog. She has been great with my horses since day one, but not so great with cats.

Frieda- Thanks for sharing! Freyja certainly is a beautiful girl!!!

I miss my Attila SOOOO much. Here are a couple of pictures of him when he was 18 months old. I have many many more that better show his adult form when he was older/larger, but they are on a PC that is out for service.

I loved his mahogany markings, head, short hair... everything! And he was a character. We have a raccoon problem
where I live. Are used to have an outdoor cat with cat doors and raccoons would routinely come in the house at night. He killed at least half a dozen of them in my kitchen, and somehow never took a scratch. He was so smart, he would taunt them by stomping at them repeatedly from a safe distance, until they stood still and arch their back and then he would jump up in the air, turn 90° in land with both paws on their back‘s and bite them in the middle of the spine and either crush the life breath out of them, or literally pick them up and bash their heads against a brick wall. I know this sounds cruel but raccoons can be particularly nasty, especially when you accidentally corner one in your own home in the middle of the night.
He was such a great protector.






I realize you’re a good distance from Tennessee but you sound to be someone who is up for a travel adventure if you find the right breeder. I’m not saying the woman who put my Freyja Von Keleman on the ground is the right breeder for you, but she uses German blood lines so may be someone to consider.

Best wishes in your search and welcome to the forum:)
I’ll check that breeder out- thanks!

Off to work. I appreciate the replies, I’ll hop on tonight to answer the rest!

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I think the OP made a post after BBD #5 post as this thread shows six posts and DrGunner to be the last one.

I should be #7 with the hope it might make#6 post appear.
 

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Frieda-I think this forum hates me. I posted a long detailed response to both you and a big black, first there was a message saying that my posts were awaiting moderation, then this morning I tried again and a long detailed post to big black appeared so I went ahead and posted one to you, and as soon as I clicked on send, both his and yours disappeared. This is really disappointing, I’m going to try starting another version of the same thread by copying and pasting my OP, but if that fails, I am out of here- and will bookmark this forum for later use when a better OS is installed.

Respectfully,

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I'm not sure what is happening?? I got your "test" notice in my e-mail...but I don't see it here? Try posting in a different thread or section and see what happens??
I had to delete one post that showed up 5 times in this thread....Ground Hog Day?? hahahaha!
 

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Well, I am no fan of this version of V-Bulletin and I haven’t been since 2009. It runs exactly the same today as it did back then - full of flaws and not user friendly.

I sent a message to the webmaster. I hate doing that but DrGunner sounds to be an asset to the forum and I would sure hate to see him stop posting because this forum’s software is so lousy:(.

I suspect the lack of software friendliness might be a good reason for some members not staying. There is no shortage of dog forums and pet forums in cyberspace whose software is much easier to negotiate:(
 

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Well- I received a PM from admin, apparently my posts were received as “spam”. They’ve been OK’ed- I deleted a few duplicates. Hopefully this will go through-

Thanks (belated) for your help & advice, and thanks for helping get my posting privileges sorted out!

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Well- I received a PM from admin, apparently my posts were received as “spam”. They’ve been OK’ed- I deleted a few duplicates. Hopefully this will go through-

Thanks (belated) for your help & advice, and thanks for helping get my posting privileges sorted out!

DrGunner
YAY!!

Hope to hear from you often! Hopefully with updates of your Pup Hunt:)
 

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Hello- I’m 52 years old, have had dogs my entire life. The next will be my 4th Rottie.
My first was adopted. He was American bred, 1/2 True German pedigree- nice dog, but not my idea of a true German. In short, he was too big, markings too light tan for my taste, he looked more mastiff than Rottweiler. He lived 11 years, died of cardiomegaly.
My second was a painful lesson in how one should research before buying. Otto was a great example of a German Rottweiler- mahogany markings, good angulation, perfect size. He was an AKC breeding from where I live in Illinois. He developed a limp at age 5... Osteosarcoma took him out in 6 months. Subsequent research revealed an alarming degree of inbreeding.
My next- and last Rottweiler was by far, the best. I researched the German breeding program at the time, 2003-2004, and reserved a puppy bred from sire Mambo Von Der Crossener Ranch, and a suitable female with all the right OFA certifications.
The breeding was sanctioned- in Germany & the dam imported pregnant.
Attila was the best dog I’ve ever known. He developed liver trouble at almost 14 years of age, and we had to say goodbye. That was almost 3 years ago, and my heart is finally in a place to start again. I searched out the breeder I bought him from- he’s still in business but some internet searching & reading raised some red flags about his current breeding program and, quite frankly- lack of OFA records in his current producing dogs- so I’m back to learning what I need to before I buy.
Can anyone provide a list of reputable breeders of pure German Rotts currently in the US?
I’d prefer COE breeders, and I’m not averse to buying another import pup provided that the full records of dam and sire are available. My last pup was pick of litter from a champ, and cost me $2500 back then. Not sure where the market is now, but I want top quality, documented genetics & don’t mind paying. I’m well aware that there are no guarantees, but I’ve been burned and heartbroken in the past.
I have 2 kids, 12 & 14, and a 5 year old female Bordeaux/French mastiff (spayed) with good even temperament.
I know there are lots of Rotts needing rescue, but the entire family has their hearts set on a male Rott pup, as do I. I already checked with my homeowners insurance- no breed restrictions there.

Please- help me find my next best buddy!

DrGunner
Check some kennels in Germany or Italy. I’m buying a male from a small kennel in Germany. There are some good breeders in the US, but I find that many of them are running Serbian lines. To me, those dogs are brachycephalic. The Serbs don’t have the standards that the Germans do.
 

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Welcome to the forums. Sorry to hear about the dogs you have lost....the problem with this breed is that they are not long lived. Well bred, or poorly bred...they never live long enough.

Have you read this thread??American vs German Rottweilers There really should be very little difference between a Rottweiler of German lines (or born in Germany), and Rottweilers that are from German lines (born in the USA). What you think of as American Rottweilers are usually poorly BYB bred, long legged, longer snout, poor markings. This is because there are probably 2-3 generations of BYB's breeding these lines with no thought to conformation, temperament or titles.

Where are you located? There are all sorts of good breeders breeding from respected German lines, or other European countries. As you know you must find a breeder that does test their breeding dogs for hips,elbows, eyes and heart....and title in conformation, and obedience or working titles.

I would start with going to the American Rottweiler Club website. Find the local club in your state and e-mail the club to find breeders in your area. Also what shows are coming up in the near future.
www.amrottclub.org If you are looking at breeders that attend Sieger shows, then go to : Web Hosting - This site is temporarily unavailable as well as www.usronline.org They will have information on upcoming Sieger shows and maybe breeders that you can look into.
Not long lived? My last dog was over 13 when he passed. That a long life for any dog. You’re thinking of dogs whose genetics are inferior.
 
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